WinReducer 8.1 (Old discussion)

caphp wrote:

I personally hope, that winterstrom will not integrate more features to install software.
I observed this way of development at the program "WinToolkit".
Since the delevoper adds features to integrate programs - automtic installations, 90% of all questions and problems in the forum belong to program installations and errors with them.

To my mind, it makes sence that the program is called "winreducer" and not "wininstaller".
So I hope, that winterstorm will still focus on reduceing the windows installations.

yes you´r right.

im installing all my software after first start with WPIW

http://www.wpiw.net/

you can choose what software you want to install like dave999 wanted

    friends i have not demand any advance post advance installation tools

1  automatic that install all software in folder 

2 manual that let me show list after installation of windows 8 so i pickup software want to install ... all user not need all software 

  nothing new nlite for xp have this type of system 

          

removing net  framework 3.5, 4.5 installation is ok but on windows 

you cant install net framework back so for me unuseful.

also there are problems with wind. updates

theKramer wrote:

Hi winter. 
Any update on wifi preset inclusion ? 
Happy new year :-)

Hey my friend, Happy new year too ...  

I'm working on it to solved it because I confirm that something break Wifi ... I want to solve it for v1.00 ...  

dany00711 wrote:

removing net  framework 3.5, 4.5 installation is ok but on windows

you cant install net framework back so for me unuseful.

also there are problems with wind. updates

1. Removing Windows Components using WinReducer could remove some features you need.  
2. Removing Windows Components using WinReducer could break some Windows Updates. It's a known bug but I can't really do something because Windows use a some Updates to fix many windows components at the same time. So if one of these components is missing the update will not be installed. The best choice you have will be to integrate all updates (using winreducer)  before WinReduce Windows !  

billybully wrote:

Is the final version near?? If so, would you consider THIS? Please, lol.

I will do it, and I've updated your request thread status to Work in Porgress !

caphp wrote:

I personally hope, that winterstrom will not integrate more features to install software.
I observed this way of development at the program "WinToolkit".
Since the delevoper adds features to integrate programs - automtic installations, 90% of all questions and problems in the forum belong to program installations and errors with them.

To my mind, it makes sence that the program is called "winreducer" and not "wininstaller".
So I hope, that winterstorm will still focus on reduceing the windows installations.

Guys, I'm totally agree with you, and I don't want to spend my time to correct trouble with integrated software. And I always keep in mind, that the primary purpose of WinReducer is to reduce even more Windows with a great stability. It's just hard enough ! But with all your ideas and feedbacks, it's a real pleasure to create and improve WinReducer !  

removing net  framework 3.5, 4.5 installation is ok but on windows 
you cant install net framework back so for me unuseful.

Pretty normal. This applys nearly to all removed components.
If it will be possible to simply add a removed component, when you can simply remove ALL components winreducer offers, start your windows, install your programms and simply add the files that were missing. This would be great and we all have no testing to do and all our installs will be as small as they can be, but thats not the way it works. 
So think frist and after that start removing.

also there are problems with wind. updates

Yes, there are a few components and/or cleanup points, that break windows updates.

Hey winterstorm2050

First of all HAPPY NEW YEAR and THANKS for the amazing job you are doing!!!

I would like to report a small issue... That's what I did:

- On a Win 8.1 Pro 64 bit UEFI laptop I reduced (moderately, I would say) my Win 8.1 Pro 64 bit .iso

- I created a bootable USB flashdrive

- I installed on a separate freshly formatted laptop (identical hardware) and all went smoothly

When I boot into Windows all works fine and looks just as expected EXCEPT:

1) I insert a disk in the CD/DVD drive and it shows normally in "This PC" (I can also explore/browse the disk) but the application (DriverPack solution) on the disk will not run (it did work fine in the same Win 8.1 unreduced installation);

2) If I right-click on the start button I can only see Sign out (in the same Win 8.1 unreduced installation I could see Sleep, Restart, Shutdown etc.);

3) The taskbar icons randomly disappear (in the same Win 8.1 unreduced installation this obviously never happened);

4) Any inserted USB flashdrive randomly auto-eject (in the same Win 8.1 unreduced installation this obviously never happened).

Could you kindly tell me what I should do... Would it help if I PM you my preset.wccf so you can see if I did something wrong?

Thanks a lot!!!

@winterstorm2050

could you add, please, "disable taskbar transparency"?  

Archimede wrote:

Hey winterstorm2050

First of all HAPPY NEW YEAR and THANKS for the amazing job you are doing!!!

I would like to report a small issue... That's what I did:

- On a Win 8.1 Pro 64 bit UEFI laptop I reduced (moderately, I would say) my Win 8.1 Pro 64 bit .iso

- I created a bootable USB flashdrive

- I installed on a separate freshly formatted laptop (identical hardware) and all went smoothly

When I boot into Windows all works fine and looks just as expected EXCEPT:

1) I insert a disk in the CD/DVD drive and it shows normally in "This PC" (I can also explore/browse the disk) but the application (DriverPack solution) on the disk will not run (it did work fine in the same Win 8.1 unreduced installation);

2) If I right-click on the start button I can only see Sign out (in the same Win 8.1 unreduced installation I could see Sleep, Restart, Shutdown etc.);

3) The taskbar icons randomly disappear (in the same Win 8.1 unreduced installation this obviously never happened);

4) Any inserted USB flashdrive randomly auto-eject (in the same Win 8.1 unreduced installation this obviously never happened).

Could you kindly tell me what I should do... Would it help if I PM you my preset.wccf so you can see if I did something wrong?

Thanks a lot!!!

Hello and welcome,

Happy new year too ...   

1. Maybe a .net framework 3.5 depending application ? But I'm not sure.
2. This is the case if you choose "Tweaks - CTRL+ALT+DEL Screen", everything will be disable also in the WinX menu. You could use "Appearance - Activate Desktop Context Menu" to configure logoff, restart and shutdown.
3. Which version of winreducer are you using ? Did you remove "Modern UI - Immersive Cpl" ? Is this happens after using Modern UI Apps and go back desktop ?
4. Never experienced this, so I can't tell what it is. Maybe try with another thumb drive or usb port, and see what happens ...

Have a nice day and thank you for your feedback !  

freak.vulgar wrote:

@winterstorm2050

could you add, please, "disable taskbar transparency"?

Could you please create a thread in the "Request" forum, thank you very much ...   

Hi winterstorm2050 and thanks for your reply (below):

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1. Maybe a .net framework 3.5 depending application ? But I'm not sure.

2. This is the case if you choose "Tweaks - CTRL+ALT+DEL Screen", everything will be disable also in the WinX menu. You could use "Appearance - Activate Desktop Context Menu" to configure logoff, restart and shutdown.

3. Which version of winreducer are you using ? Did you remove "Modern UI - Immersive Cpl" ? Is this happens after using Modern UI Apps and go back desktop ?

4. Never experienced this, so I can't tell what it is. Maybe try with another thumb drive or usb port, and see what happens ...
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In the title of my post "Some side effects of my reduction with WinReducer 8.1 v.0.99.5" it says which version of winreducer I am  using

I will reduce again keeping in mind your advices and will post new feedback (hopefully labelled with "SOLVED").

Thanks again and keep up the good work!

Archimede wrote:

In the title of my post "Some side effects of my reduction with WinReducer 8.1 v.0.99.5" it says which version of winreducer I am  using

Oups, yes, that's right !  

Ok, Thank you !  

I will release a v0.99.6, with many improvements, tomorrow ...  

WONDERFUL (thanks for the heads-up)

Hi winterstorm2050,

I have a couple of (stupid) questions for you:

Can I use a preset (.wccf file) made with v0.99.5 on the newest release coming tomorrow (v0.99.6)? Are .wccf files made with the previous version fully compatible with v0.99.6?

Is v0.99.6 a final version, since v0.99.5 was labelled "Pre-Final"?

One suggestion (probably also stupid)

What about making a Preset Editor? To edit a .wccf file can be done in Notepad (but it is kind of easy to make mistakes if you are not familiar with the features properties)... To do it in WinReducer, the .iso or the folder must be mounted first and that takes time.

So I was just thinking, since you already have the GUI, why not making a simple editor, with which the user can quickly load the .wccf file and (using the same GUI as WinReducer) the preset can be easily edited and the changes can be saved to the preset .wccf file. The Preset Editor can also be a useful tool to review a .wccf file on a (different) computer where the .iso file or the (extracted) folder are not present.

Would that be much work?

Please feel free to comment openly and if my questions and suggestion were indeed stupid, do let me know

Thanks again for all your efforts.

Hey Archimede,

There are no stupid questions, only ideas my friend ...   

1. Yes, you could use wccf file from v0.99.5 in upcoming v0.99.6 (they are compatible). The only thing you need to take care is : if there are new components you need to configure them depending on your needs.

2. No, v0.99.6 will be still in pre-final status, in fact v1.00 will be the final build. And we are really close to it ...   

3. I think your idea is excellent about the "Preset Editor". I will try to include it in the v1.00, thank you for your idea !

Have a nice day !

 

Hey guys,

Here we go, WinReducer 8.1 - v0.99.6 (pre-final) is available for all members, only available in the WinReducer website :

CHANGELOG :

* NEW
- “Services - Printer Support Services”

* UPDATED
- English language file to v0.99.6
- Improve Components removing order to add better Windows cleanup and functionalities support
- “Accessories - Action Center” : Move to “Remove - Control Panels - Action Center (Files)”
- “Drivers - Support - Ram Disk” : Change name
- “Services - Diagnostic Policy Services” : Improve services configuration
- “Services - HomeGroup Listener and Provider Services” : Improve services configuration
- “Services - HyperV Services” : Improve services configuration
- “Services - Peer Name Resolution Protocol Services” : Improve services configuration
- “Services - Remote Access Manager Services” : Improve services configuration
- “Services - Remote Desktop Services” : Improve services configuration
- “Services - Smart Card Services” : Improve services configuration

* FIXED
- “Open a Folder” and “Open and Extract an ISO” : didn’t work properly under certains circumstances (like using an Upgrade ISO, ...)
- “Appreance – Modern UI Color (Login)” : Remove uneeded color numbers
- “Remove - Control Panels - Action Center” : Remove control panel shortcut when using “Automatic Removing” preset
- “Optimizations - Windows - Unneeded Files Cleanup” : Break Net Framework 3.5 integration
- “Change User Picture” (in Windows) didn’t work under certains circumstances
- Some Protect presets didn’t work properly with previous build
- “Load WCCF Preset” : “System - OOBE Configuration” didn’t work correctly
- “Load WCCF Preset” : “System - WinReducer Registry Integrator” didn’t work correctly

http://www.winreducer.net

Enough talking, go test the latest WinReducer 8.1 build test before the FINAL ...

- Improve Components removing order to add better Windows cleanup and functionalities support

Hey this sounds like an interesting improvement… Can you describe it, Winter?

winterstorm2050 wrote:

Hey Archimede,

There are no stupid questions, only ideas my friend ...   

1. Yes, you could use wccf file from v0.99.5 in upcoming v0.99.6 (they are compatible). The only thing you need to take care is : if there are new components you need to configure them depending on your needs.

2. No, v0.99.6 will be still in pre-final status, in fact v1.00 will be the final build. And we are really close to it ...   

3. I think your idea is excellent about the "Preset Editor". I will try to include it in the v1.00, thank you for your idea !

Have a nice day !

 

Hey winterstorm2050 and thanks for your kind reply

1. About the .wccf file compatibility between v0.99.5 and v0.99.6 all is clear now... (I always prefer to ask rather than have to find out the hard way).

2. Indeed we are really close to the final version!!! Once more congratulations for the outstanding job that you (and your team) have done so far.

3. I am glad you appreciated my suggestion about the Preset Editor and I am happy to hear that you will try to include it in v1.00... Now I have one more reason to be impatient

I have just downloaded v0.99.6 and I am going to test it right away! Hopefully (paying better attention this time and following the advices you recently provided) I will manage to solve the small issues that I faced in my previous attempt and reported in my recent feedback about v0.99.5.

I wish you a pleasant Sunday

Hi winterstorm2050,

Just a consideration:

In Tweaks -->> Taskbar -->> Show all icons (the hint says "Hide all unneeded icons...").

Is it me or this hint is kind of contradictory/confusing?

Thanks

billybully wrote:

- Improve Components removing order to add better Windows cleanup and functionalities support

Hey this sounds like an interesting improvement… Can you describe it, Winter?

Nothing new, this just solved some troubles during removing process like in Windows choosing a User Picture for your login ...   

Archimede wrote:

Hi winterstorm2050,

Just a consideration:

In Tweaks -->> Taskbar -->> Show all icons (the hint says "Hide all unneeded icons...").

Is it me or this hint is kind of contradictory/confusing?

Thanks

Yep, that's right, I missed it, thank you !   

winterstorm2050 wrote:

billybully wrote:

- Improve Components removing order to add better Windows cleanup and functionalities support

Hey this sounds like an interesting improvement… Can you describe it, Winter?

Nothing new, this just solved some troubles during removing process like in Windows choosing a User Picture for your login ...   

Does this mean that changing user account picture will work even if 'immersive control panel' is removed?

No, you absolutely need "Immersive CPL" .... Because I haven't found a way to change it without "Immersive CPL", do you ?

I solved the bug if you want to change it in "Immersive CPL" ...   

winterstorm2050 wrote:

No, you absolutely need "Immersive CPL" .... Because I haven't found a way to change it without "Immersive CPL", do you ?

I solved the bug if you want to change it in "Immersive CPL" ...   

Ah, cool. I think it was working in 0.99.5 anyway, with everything except ICP removed.


Or maybe that was because I followed the sequence you asked me to, and now you have fixed it so that on the first reduction itself we can remove everything except ICP and still be able to change account picture.

Archimede wrote:

3. I am glad you appreciated my suggestion about the Preset Editor and I am happy to hear that you will try to include it in v1.00... Now I have one more reason to be impatient

Already added in v0.99.7 (coming Wednesday 8 January) ...   

aymanalz wrote:

Or maybe that was because I followed the sequence you asked me to, and now you have fixed it so that on the first reduction itself we can remove everything except ICP and still be able to change account picture.

Exactly ...  

Hi winterstorm2050,

I am happy to say that 3 of the 4 problems (listed below for easy reference) have been solved during the 2 reductions i did today with v0.99.6.

I sincerely hope that I will find a solution to the persisting problem (number 1 below) or else I fear that I will not be able to enjoy my "WinReduced Windows 8.1" (since I cannot use my notebook without a functional CD/DVD drive)... And that would be very sad

The CD/DVD drive works fine on the same laptop with the Win 8.1 "unreduced" installation... So there must be something that I either do wrong or something in WinReducer that affects the CD/DVD drive functionality.

Please let me know if you feel like quickly looking through my preset (.wccf file) so that you might identify the culprit... Maybe the newly developed Preset Editor would be the ideal tool for you to immediately pinpoint a flaw in my preset file, who knows.

Thanks,

Archimede
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1) I insert a disk in the CD/DVD drive and it shows normally in "This PC" (I can also explore/browse the disk) but the application (DriverPack solution) on the disk will not run (it did work fine in the same Win 8.1 unreduced installation);

2) If I right-click on the start button I can only see Sign out (in the same Win 8.1 unreduced installation I could see Sleep, Restart, Shutdown etc.);

3) The taskbar icons randomly disappear (in the same Win 8.1 unreduced installation this obviously never happened);

4) Any inserted USB flashdrive randomly auto-eject (in the same Win 8.1 unreduced installation this obviously never happened).
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The problem of not being able to install language packs seems to be caused by the 'remove' tab, section tweaks.
I can remove stuff, change services, remove components, protect components, without problem, however as soon as i use any 'tweaks' for example, show hidden files, it breaks the installation and i can no longer install language packs.
Hopefully this is helpful to resolve this bug.

Can someone please confirm that in WinReducer  HOME\SOFTWARE the ONLY necessary files are:

7z.dll
7z.exe
ImageX.exe
oscdimg.exe
ResHacker.exe
SetACL.exe

Are there any updated files for the above?

I have updated 7zip (to v9.20) but I wonder if there are any updates for the other files that might be needed.

Thanks

I had to update 7-Zip files to 9.30 alpha a few month ago.
Since then, I had to do no updates to the mentioned files.

The SHA1 of the files:

7z.dll -->> 79E6CFA11747B633EB3D742D62DBED93A7B5F0D7  <<-- for v9.20
7z.exe -->> 71411F50FBFBB9F77D61860AAC3B9133D428274F  <<-- for v9.20
ImageX.exe -->> 10237CF076920324FE7AE9C5FCEB55C0333AC7AD
oscdimg.exe -->> 317A26EA1E828579C97C4BF0BD1BB4B0FD94E7C3
ResHacker.exe -->> 8B58DCD428759D3633A14BCFC62A8CB6DEB66DE5
SetACL.exe -->> 328D049DA1814CFE7D1C7783691304577854482F

Can anyone please confirm?

Thanks

Archimede wrote:

The SHA1 of the files:

7z.dll -->> 79E6CFA11747B633EB3D742D62DBED93A7B5F0D7  <<-- for v9.20
7z.exe -->> 71411F50FBFBB9F77D61860AAC3B9133D428274F  <<-- for v9.20
ImageX.exe -->> 10237CF076920324FE7AE9C5FCEB55C0333AC7AD
oscdimg.exe -->> 317A26EA1E828579C97C4BF0BD1BB4B0FD94E7C3
ResHacker.exe -->> 8B58DCD428759D3633A14BCFC62A8CB6DEB66DE5
SetACL.exe -->> 328D049DA1814CFE7D1C7783691304577854482F

Can anyone please confirm?

Thanks

Are you using 32 bit version? Because the SHAs I have for my 64 bit are different.

Could you kindly upload a zipped folder with the 64 bit version of these files?

Thanks