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the settings app closes itself when hitting anything like windows updates

im currently still testing and for my german iso the folowing components break it:

National Language Support (European - Western)
Network -> Shared Experiences
Control Panel - Game Controllers
Control Panel - Game Controllers (Files)
Control Panel - Folder Options
Control Panel - Date and Time



Microsoft Passport Service -> breaks the Accounts
Device Picker Service -> "breaks" accounts, after removing it it takes like 10-15 seconds till the Accounts window is shown
GameDVR and Broadcast User Service -> "breaks" accounts, after removing it it takes like 10-15 seconds till the Accounts window is shown
Windows Biometric Service -> "breaks" accounts, after removing it it takes like 10-15 seconds till the Accounts window is shown

OneDrive (Files On-Demand) -> breaks System
Network -> SQL Client -> breaks System
Network -> SQL Server -> breaks System

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Services -> Connected Device Plattform Service is breaking System


EDIT:

Network -> Connected Devices Plattform   ; breaks System

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Hi KrX

Can You give me the list of what is not removed in Accessories,
Only Administrative Tools items , mayby it is the same problem i have got
icy

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Hi guys,

as i have posted in this

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modern ui -> Framework Frame Host
and
Accessories -> Night Light

causes the desktop right click -> settings window not to open

winter said that he could not reproduce the second, but for me it happened even if only night light was removed.

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Hi Victor  

Experimental Modern UI Apps
--Framework (ApplicationFrameHost) removes access to settings and setting screen desktop
is correct, but there is more
icy

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Accessories - Night Light;

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no Victor
Accessories - Night Light; this is removed.
I am still investigating it as  I might be wrong
i am using w10  home, and this is a big difference with w10 pro
icy

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Hey, here is the wccf file i used.

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the only thing is didnt test this time is if removing ONLY always one of this components from my Win10 Pro iso also breaks it.

since im currently short on time i will do more test soon

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Hi KrX
I do not need your wccf,they change all the time from version,
Only Administrative Tools not removed in accessories
that way i can compare with my notes  and see of my findings could be correct.
icy

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confirmed, it is still broken in version v3..0.0.0


Code:

National Language Support (European - Western)


is needed else it breaks Settings

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that was the old list:

National Language Support (European - Western)
Network -> Shared Experiences
Control Panel - Game Controllers
Control Panel - Game Controllers (Files)

Control Panel - Folder Options
Control Panel - Date and Time
Microsoft Passport Service -> breaks sign in options  --> https://forum.winreducer.net/t2974-under-investigation-ex-100-v2-3-8-0-20h1-build-19041-388-settings-app-broken#24645
Device Picker Service -> "breaks" accounts, after removing it it takes like 10-15 seconds till the Accounts window is shown
GameDVR and Broadcast User Service -> "breaks" accounts, after removing it it takes like 10-15 seconds till the Accounts window is shown
Windows Biometric Service -> "breaks" account -> sign in options and privacy -> voice activation, after removing it it takes like 10-15 seconds till the window is shown --> https://forum.winreducer.net/t2974-under-investigation-ex-100-v2-3-8-0-20h1-build-19041-388-settings-app-broken#24657
OneDrive (Files On-Demand) -> breaks System
Network -> SQL Client -> breaks System
Network -> SQL Server -> breaks System
Services -> Connected Device Plattform Service is breaking System --> https://forum.winreducer.net/t2974-under-investigation-ex-100-v2-3-8-0-20h1-build-19041-388-settings-app-broken#24651
Network -> Connected Devices Plattform   ; breaks System


doing more/new test.
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Do no longer break:

OneDrive (Files On-Demand) -> breaks System
Network -> SQL Server -> breaks System
Network -> SQL Client -> breaks System
Control Panel - Date and Time
Control Panel - Folder Options
Control Panel - Game Controllers
Control Panel - Game Controllers (Files)
Network -> Shared Experiences
GameDVR and Broadcast User Service -> "breaks" accounts, after removing it it takes like 10-15 seconds till the Accounts window is shown
Device Picker Service -> "breaks" accounts, after removing it it takes like 10-15 seconds till the Accounts window is shown

with
Win10_21H2_German_x64.iso  (10.0.19041.1288.0)
Winreducer 3.0.5.0

New findings:

Themes -> Themes - Ease of Access   ;break Ease of Acess -> High contrast ---> Theme itself breaks the component  -> https://forum.winreducer.net/t2974-ex-100-v2-3-8-0-20h1-build-19041-388-settings-app-broken#24616
Modern UI Apps -> Phone Call     ; breaks Privacy -> Phone Calls --> https://forum.winreducer.net/t2974-ex-100-v2-3-8-0-20h1-build-19041-388-settings-app-broken#24635
Multimedia --> Speech      ; breaks Privacy --> Voice activation --> https://forum.winreducer.net/t2974-under-investigation-ex-100-v2-3-8-0-20h1-build-19041-388-settings-app-broken#24644

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Hi winter,


Themes -> Themes - Ease of Access   ;break Ease of Acess -> High contrast

This option breaks if the Theme itself is remove: \Windows\Resources\Ease of Access Themes\

so i would suggest that the Theme can only be removed when Ease of Access is removed. Otherwiese there is an nasty error thrown when clicking on the High Contrast option

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Modern UI Apps -> Phone Call     ; breaks Privacy -> Phone Calls


for it to work, this file nees to be kept:

Code:

Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.CallingShellApp_cw5n1h2txyewy\CallingShellAppPresenters.dll


and this registry keys:

Code:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\WIM_SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\CapabilityAccessManager\Capabilities\phoneCall]
"AccessChangeWnf"=hex(b):35,61,bc,a3,2e,0f,8b,41
"LegacyInterfaceClassGuid"="{235B668D-B2AC-4864-B49C-ED1084F6C9D3}"
"UsageChangeWnf"=hex(b):35,49,bd,a3,2e,0f,8b,41
"UserConsentPromptRequired"=dword:00000001
"UserConsentRequired"=dword:00000001

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@KrX : Thanks for the tests ... I marked this as [UNDER INVESTIGATION] !

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Multimedia --> Speech      ; breaks Privacy --> Voice activation


Can be fixed if this is kept:



Code:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\WIM_SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsRuntime\ActivatableClassId\Windows.Media.Speech.SpeechSettings]
"ActivationType"=dword:00000000
"CLSID"="{1085D99A-9B04-4AF6-8D33-3B27BC0D6F23}"
"DllPath"="X:\\Windows\\System32\\Windows.Media.Speech.dll"
"Threading"=dword:00000000
"TrustLevel"=dword:00000000

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Microsoft Passport Service -> breaks sign in options



Code:

Windows\System32\cryptngc.dll


is needed

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Services -> Connected Device Plattform Service is breaking System



Code:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\CDPSvc]
"DelayedAutoStart"=dword:00000001
"DependOnService"=hex(7):6E,00,63,00,62,00,73,00,65,00,72,00,76,00,69,00,63,00,65,00,\
  00,00,52,00,70,00,63,00,53,00,53,00,00,00,54,00,63,00,70,00,\
  69,00,70,00,00,00
"Description"="@%SystemRoot%\\system32\\cdpsvc.dll,-101"
"DisplayName"="@%SystemRoot%\\system32\\cdpsvc.dll,-100"
"ErrorControl"=dword:00000001
"FailureActions"=hex:80,51,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,03,00,00,00,14,00,00,00,\
  01,00,00,00,B8,0B,00,00,01,00,00,00,B8,0B,00,00,00,00,00,00,\
  00,00,00,00
"ImagePath"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6D,00,52,00,6F,00,6F,00,\
  74,00,25,00,5C,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6D,00,33,00,\
  32,00,5C,00,73,00,76,00,63,00,68,00,6F,00,73,00,74,00,2E,00,\
  65,00,78,00,65,00,20,00,2D,00,6B,00,20,00,4C,00,6F,00,63,00,\
  61,00,6C,00,53,00,65,00,72,00,76,00,69,00,63,00,65,00,20,00,\
  2D,00,70,00
"ObjectName"="NT AUTHORITY\\LocalService"
"RequiredPrivileges"=hex(7):53,00,65,00,49,00,6D,00,70,00,65,00,72,00,73,00,6F,00,6E,00,\
  61,00,74,00,65,00,50,00,72,00,69,00,76,00,69,00,6C,00,65,00,\
  67,00,65,00,00,00
"ServiceSidType"=dword:00000001
"Start"=dword:00000002
"Type"=dword:00000020



@winter


when i fix this i will need to retest, since when i remove every file and registry key manualla and keep the one above, the System Tab still works. 
But using winreducer, adding this key back it does not work, even when all other files and reg keys are the same

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Windows Biometric Service -> "breaks" account -> sign in options and privacy -> voice activation, after removing it it takes like 10-15 seconds till the window is shown



Code:

Windows\System32\wbiosrvc.dll



Code:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\WIM_SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Svchost]
"WbioSvcGroup"=hex(7):57,00,62,00,69,00,6f,00,53,00,72,00,76,00,63,00,00,00,00,\
  00





Code:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\WIM_SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\WbioSrvc]
"DependOnService"=hex(7):52,00,70,00,63,00,53,00,73,00,00,00,00,00
"Description"="@%systemroot%\\system32\\wbiosrvc.dll,-101"
"DisplayName"="@%systemroot%\\system32\\wbiosrvc.dll,-100"
"ErrorControl"=dword:00000001
"FailureActions"=hex:ff,ff,ff,ff,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,03,00,00,00,14,00,00,\
  00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
"Group"="SmartCardGroup"
"ImagePath"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,\
  74,00,25,00,5c,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,73,\
  00,76,00,63,00,68,00,6f,00,73,00,74,00,2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,00,20,00,2d,00,\
  6b,00,20,00,57,00,62,00,69,00,6f,00,53,00,76,00,63,00,47,00,72,00,6f,00,75,\
  00,70,00,00,00
"ObjectName"="LocalSystem"
"RequiredPrivileges"=hex(7):53,00,65,00,41,00,73,00,73,00,69,00,67,00,6e,00,50,\
  00,72,00,69,00,6d,00,61,00,72,00,79,00,54,00,6f,00,6b,00,65,00,6e,00,50,00,\
  72,00,69,00,76,00,69,00,6c,00,65,00,67,00,65,00,00,00,53,00,65,00,49,00,6e,\
  00,63,00,72,00,65,00,61,00,73,00,65,00,51,00,75,00,6f,00,74,00,61,00,50,00,\
  72,00,69,00,76,00,69,00,6c,00,65,00,67,00,65,00,00,00,53,00,65,00,54,00,63,\
  00,62,00,50,00,72,00,69,00,76,00,69,00,6c,00,65,00,67,00,65,00,00,00,53,00,\
  65,00,42,00,61,00,63,00,6b,00,75,00,70,00,50,00,72,00,69,00,76,00,69,00,6c,\
  00,65,00,67,00,65,00,00,00,53,00,65,00,52,00,65,00,73,00,74,00,6f,00,72,00,\
  65,00,50,00,72,00,69,00,76,00,69,00,6c,00,65,00,67,00,65,00,00,00,53,00,65,\
  00,44,00,65,00,62,00,75,00,67,00,50,00,72,00,69,00,76,00,69,00,6c,00,65,00,\
  67,00,65,00,00,00,53,00,65,00,41,00,75,00,64,00,69,00,74,00,50,00,72,00,69,\
  00,76,00,69,00,6c,00,65,00,67,00,65,00,00,00,53,00,65,00,43,00,68,00,61,00,\
  6e,00,67,00,65,00,4e,00,6f,00,74,00,69,00,66,00,79,00,50,00,72,00,69,00,76,\
  00,69,00,6c,00,65,00,67,00,65,00,00,00,53,00,65,00,49,00,6d,00,70,00,65,00,\
  72,00,73,00,6f,00,6e,00,61,00,74,00,65,00,50,00,72,00,69,00,76,00,69,00,6c,\
  00,65,00,67,00,65,00,00,00,53,00,65,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,\
  45,00,6e,00,76,00,69,00,72,00,6f,00,6e,00,6d,00,65,00,6e,00,74,00,50,00,72,\
  00,69,00,76,00,69,00,6c,00,65,00,67,00,65,00,00,00,53,00,65,00,53,00,68,00,\
  75,00,74,00,64,00,6f,00,77,00,6e,00,50,00,72,00,69,00,76,00,69,00,6c,00,65,\
  00,67,00,65,00,00,00,00,00
"ServiceSidType"=dword:00000001
"Start"=dword:00000003
"Type"=dword:00000020

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\WIM_SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\WbioSrvc\Databases]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\WIM_SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\WbioSrvc\Parameters]
"ServiceDll"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,\
  00,74,00,25,00,5c,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,\
  77,00,62,00,69,00,6f,00,73,00,72,00,76,00,63,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,00,00,\
  00
"ServiceDllUnloadOnStop"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\WIM_SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\WbioSrvc\Security]
"Security"=hex:01,00,14,80,b8,00,00,00,c4,00,00,00,14,00,00,00,30,00,00,00,02,\
  00,1c,00,01,00,00,00,02,80,14,00,ff,01,0f,00,01,01,00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,\
  00,00,02,00,88,00,06,00,00,00,00,00,14,00,fd,01,02,00,01,01,00,00,00,00,00,\
  05,12,00,00,00,00,00,18,00,ff,01,0f,00,01,02,00,00,00,00,00,05,20,00,00,00,\
  20,02,00,00,00,00,14,00,9d,01,02,00,01,01,00,00,00,00,00,05,04,00,00,00,00,\
  00,14,00,8d,01,02,00,01,01,00,00,00,00,00,05,06,00,00,00,00,00,14,00,00,01,\
  00,00,01,01,00,00,00,00,00,05,0b,00,00,00,00,00,18,00,15,00,00,00,01,02,00,\
  00,00,00,00,0f,02,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,01,01,00,00,00,00,00,05,12,00,00,00,\
  01,01,00,00,00,00,00,05,12,00,00,00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\WIM_SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\WbioSrvc\Service Providers]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\WIM_SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\WbioSrvc\TriggerInfo]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\WIM_SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\WbioSrvc\TriggerInfo\0]
"Action"=dword:00000001
"Data0"=hex:43,00,30,00,45,00,39,00,36,00,37,00,31,00,45,00,2d,00,33,00,33,00,\
  43,00,36,00,2d,00,34,00,34,00,33,00,38,00,2d,00,39,00,34,00,36,00,34,00,2d,\
  00,35,00,36,00,42,00,32,00,45,00,31,00,42,00,31,00,43,00,37,00,42,00,34,00,\
  00,00
"DataType0"=dword:00000002
"GUID"=hex:67,d1,90,bc,70,94,39,41,a9,ba,be,0b,bb,f5,b7,4d
"Type"=dword:00000006

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\WIM_SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\WbioSrvc\TriggerInfo\1]
"Action"=dword:00000001
"Data0"=hex:34,00,42,00,45,00,39,00,36,00,41,00,30,00,46,00,2d,00,39,00,46,00,\
  35,00,32,00,2d,00,34,00,37,00,32,00,39,00,2d,00,41,00,35,00,31,00,44,00,2d,\
  00,43,00,37,00,30,00,36,00,31,00,30,00,46,00,31,00,31,00,38,00,42,00,30,00,\
  00,00
"DataType0"=dword:00000002
"GUID"=hex:67,d1,90,bc,70,94,39,41,a9,ba,be,0b,bb,f5,b7,4d
"Type"=dword:00000006

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KrX wrote:
Hi winter,

Themes -> Themes - Ease of Access   ;break Ease of Acess -> High contrast

This option breaks if the Theme itself is remove: \Windows\Resources\Ease of Access Themes\

so i would suggest that the Theme can only be removed when Ease of Access is removed. Otherwiese there is an nasty error thrown when clicking on the High Contrast option


SOLVED in v3.1.0.0 [ALL] !

Thanks KrX Smile

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KrX wrote:
Multimedia --> Speech      ; breaks Privacy --> Voice activation

Can be fixed if this is kept:


SOLVED in v3.1.0.0 [ALL] !

Thanks KrX Smile Smile

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KrX wrote:
Microsoft Passport Service -> breaks sign in options


SOLVED in v3.1.0.0 [ALL] !

Thanks KrX Smile Smile Smile

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KrX wrote:
Windows Biometric Service -> "breaks" account -> sign in options and privacy -> voice activation, after removing it it takes like 10-15 seconds till the window is shown


SOLVED in v3.1.0.0 [ALL] !

Thanks KrX Smile Smile Smile Smile

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hi winter,

will you also add those:

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or are they already included?

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I will integrate them directly in the v3.1.0.0 [ALL] Wink

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Tested with 10.0.19041.2075


Modern UI Apps -> Phone Call no longer breaks System
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Services -> Connected Device Plattform Service is no longer breaking System
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so i close this thread since everything works.


i removed 1200 components and what was left didnt break anything in settings app
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