Compared Integrate Updates using WinReducer EX-70 and with DiSM Manually !

"Updated based on my last Trial-Run Result (September 16, 2015)"



Hi,
After i'd reviewed, corrected and updates my short trial run result and conclusion ?
So here's a New Results : 

• iMPORTANT NOTES: 
  » "I'd shared soon as posible, but i've "experiencing Technical Difficulties Issues" ???
  » Implement Windows 7 Updates Manually using DiSM before Slimmingdown with WinReducer EX-70. (Recommended to Avoiding for any Error !)
  » Implement Windows 7 and Slimmingdown Updates with WinReducer EX-70 separately. (NOT Recommended !)
  » Exporting WiM File with WimLib-ImageX more smaller than DiSM ! 
  » Missing (accidentally deleted) previous Trial-Run results ! 

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== Compairing Implement Updates using "DiSM" and "WinReducer EX-70" ! ======
==========================================================================

• Implement Windows Updates Manually using DiSM.v10.0.10240.16384": 
  » [+] Significantly More Smaller and Faster for Implement (Integrate) Updates (ONLY) than "WinReducer EX-70"
  » [+] Avoiding Start from Scartch (Integrate Updates), incase get any Error Result during Slimmingdown or Load Setting (Presets) !
  » [-] Command-Line Interfaces (CLi) & Advances Users OnLY ! 
    .. 
  » So, Which were you preferred most ??? 

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== TRiAL RUN SUMMARY ! ===================================================
== Implement or Integrate Updates ONLY with 238 Updates Installed ! =========
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• install.wim Size After : 
  » 2,48 GB (2.668.318.303 bytes) : using DiSM.v10.0.10240.16384 
  » 2,49 GB (2.678.987.908 bytes) : using WREX-70.v1.1.8.0 
  » 2.49 GB (2.678.916.098 bytes) : using WREX-70.v1.1.3.0 
  * "DiSM.v10.0.10240.16384" more smaller [± 10,175 MB (10.669.605 bytes)] than "WREX-70.v1.1.8.0" and [± 10.107 MB (10.597.795 bytes)] than "WREX-70.v1.1.3.0" 
  * "WREX-70.v1.1.3.0" more big slightly [± 70,127 KB (71810 bytes)] than "WREX-70.v1.1.8.0" 

• Elapsed Time : 
  » [± 00:48:48.300] : using DiSM.v10.0.10240.16384 
  » [± 01:17:14.004] : using WREX-70.v1.1.8.0 
  » [± 01:45:37.205] : using WREX-70.v1.1.3.0 
  * "DiSM.v10.0.10240.16384" more faster significantly [± 00:22:36.313] than "WREX-70.v1.1.8.0" and [± 00:56:48.905] than "WREX-70.v1.1.3.0" 
  * "WREX-70.v1.1.3.0" much more slower [± 00:34:12.592] than "WREX-70.v1.1.8.0" 

• Resolved (Bug-Fixes):
  » Integrated Internet Explorer 11 (iE11) Updates with WinReducer Bug
    --> You need WinReducer EX-70 v1.0.0.0 minimum. .. 
  » WinReducer EX-70 v1.1.5.0 FiX: 
    - Slimmingdown Updates Result : Error: 3 !!!
      The directory \%MOUNTDiR%\Windows does not appear to be a valid Windows directory. Ensure that the /WinDir option that is specified is valid. 
      For more information, refer to the help by running DISM.exe /WinDir /?. 
    - EXPERiMENTAL Work Folder Not Cleanup : 13.9 MB, 182 Files, 99 Folders 
    .. 
  » FiX: Exporting "boot.wim" using "WimLib-ImageX" : added "--boot" options. 
  » FiX: Integrated Manually "Windows6.1-KB2912390-x86.msu", based on WUD (Windows Updates Downloader) Update Lists (ULs) : Reversing DiSM Code 
    "Add-Package Non-Security Updates <> "Security Update". 

• Not Resolved (Known Bugs): 
  » "Network - Internet Explorer (Developer Tools)" : Removing it will caused : Missing Shortcut Internet Explorer (iE11) on Taskbar ! (Pin it Manually) 
  » "IE_11" : Seems to break "SYSTEM - Integrated - Update" : it should be "IE11" 
  » "NET45" : Windows Updates not showed "NET45" names ? 
  » Install Windows: Windows could not apply unattend settings during pass [offlineServicing]. 
  » Slimmingdown after Implement Updates using WinReducer EX-70 v1.1.8.0 ? 
    Result: "Stop Error Screen" 
    "... system operation has unexpectedly exited or terminated." 
    Technical information: *** STOP: 0x000000F4. ? 

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== Attached Files ! ========================================================
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• Command-Line Interface (CLi) Code:
  » Implement Windows 7 Updates Manually using DiSM
    * Share Link: "http://pasted.co/9572e92a"
  » Preparation Implement and Slimmingdown Updates using WinReducer EX-70
    * Share Link: "http://pasted.co/c80cd4e9"
  ...
• WinReducer Presets:
  » WREX70.v1.1.8.0_by_home7ech.wccf.7z
    * Share Link: https://mega.nz/#!S51xzRYR!hC8-oaifwtWwWiHg144oRgcU6crS4v66fhs3Xzyc8RU
  » WREX70.v1.1.8.0_by_home7ech.wccf.7z
    * Share Link: https://mega.nz/#!a5dnxKhA!aAkX2n_aebdULUl4_lpGDFPHf6FEFSri24nbjqpYOkY
  » WinReducer70_v1.1.8.0_20150906.7z
    * Share Link: https://mega.nz/#!i51ByAqD!WC5PL6ugSIkQ4O4NVIv6_31txIJhRtQ339qm02iPcHw
  » WinReducerEX70.v1.1.5.0_WinSXS_Cleanup.wccf.7z
    * Share Link: https://mega.co.nz/#!619xRbDL!f3gAarzProQVqs8PQmZylQx-tI-uozOq1a_EjoRWYt0
  » x2_WinReducerEX70.v1.1.3.0_WinSXS_Cleanup.wccf.7z
    * Share Link: https://mega.co.nz/#!619xRbDL!f3gAarzProQVqs8PQmZylQx-tI-uozOq1a_EjoRWYt0
  » x1_WinReducer70.v4.2.0.0_WinSXS_Cleanup.wccf.7z
    * Share Link: https://mega.co.nz/#!bpU0USaZ!2b5biTmAJZR9kQj6OIvWVW--mZgArKegdt3Savc1llQ
  ...
• Trial-Run Screenshots:
  » [WREX70.v1.1.5.0 scrshot].7z
    * Share Link: https://mega.co.nz/#!z8NjnQgZ!fDG3i20q_RKBDJQpJRHei-_DjFRBuif_GIcVT7C9fHs
  » [WREX70.v1.1.3.0 scrshot].7z
    * Share Link: https://mega.co.nz/#!u4FzgDQZ!U1bHXwy7zSeZPiMs8ISRoASmGPCzWMoa1dYyKU6JoHE
  » [WR70.v4.2.0.0 scrshot].7z
    * Share Link: https://mega.co.nz/#!ms1HRa6I!1MBQhZi8MsotEcs0NWz1NT3Tgc9WwjLgpGW6vxv2ubE
  ...
  pS: Screenshot for Integrate Updates with DiSM Manually can be found in Attached Files (WREX70.v1.1.3.0/.v1.1.5.0 scrshot).
  ...
• Trial-Run Logs:
  » _x3_Implement Updates + Slimmingdown With WREX-70. v1.1.5.0.logs.7z
    * Share Link: https://mega.co.nz/#!Wkt11KKa!Y5dHh8QOKJ5X5XuYcVZuuewYzGth8q4TOA-ks3H8ITA
  » _x2_Implement Updates Manually with DiSM + Slimmingdown With WinReducer.logs.7z
    * Share Link: https://mega.co.nz/#!n98F1b5D!KEDsrP_zVrrWpm4sdn9a0tqEX7H0mBjv50E30BEIau8
  » _x1_Implement Updates + Slimmingdown With WREX-70. v1.1.3.0.logs.7z
    * Share Link: https://mega.co.nz/#!LlFxiLLT!rVnUavTQYbnGiq7BnI6XzPtd0cFRkROj6Z2fbWcV1cA

*) For previous or full trial run result and conclusion can be found at :
"Slimmingdown Windows 7 (Short Guides) Part.2"
Share Link: "http://bit.ly/1KoI34W" or "http://bit.ly/1LGJWIg"

Sorry to all for any inconvenience !
I'd appreciate any correction or suggestion and hope this helps some

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Creative Learning by Doing, Slowly but Do iT Cool's

hi,

that are some nice tests.
So in total (from your conclusion) using DISM is 30 minutes faster to integrate updates than with the newest version on winreducer ? thats a lot.

also because of your "OfflineServicing" Problem.

- where the some files left at the MOUNT folder ? i.e. EXPERIMENTAL folder ?
- if not did you try deleting the unattanded.xml, maybe that cause your problem (maybe used spaces at Workgroup/username etc ? )

hello,

that's right (so far ± 30 minutes faster), but it's may be differ for other users ?

Correction for "OfflineServicing" Problem.
  » Slimmingdown after Implement Updates first using WREX-70. v1.1.3.0 (DiSM also) caused:
     - *) Install Windows: Windows could not apply unattend settings during pass [offlineServicing]
     - Generating information about all packages: Error: 3
       The directory \%MOUNTDiR%\Windows does not appear to be a valid Windows directory.
       Ensure that the /WinDir option that is specified is valid. 
       For more information, refer to the help by running DISM.exe /WinDir /?.
     - EXPERiMENTAL Work Folder Not Cleanup : 
       All Updates #1: 38.0 MB [200 Files, 99 Folders]
       All Updates #2: 13.9 MB [182 Files, 99 Folders]
       (*WinReducer EX-70 - v1.1.3.0 Screenshot Corrected)
   ...
» i'd allready try deleting the unattanded.xml in iSO image, thats not the cause ???    


*) you may check or try my preset for WinReducer EX-70 - v1.1.3.0 (03 July 2015)
  - Name: WinReducerEX70.v1.1.3.0_WinSXS_Cleanup.wccf.7z
  - Size: 8.36 KB, [Extract: 80.2 KB]
  - SHA1: 27363124EDE82DFE7C1B0AEBBE1D876A7742EF98
  - Share Link: "https://mega.co.nz/#!Ct8jgC4a"
  - Decryption Key: TDEpp2c1W2IIfAxIxYB7Tvf2W1aala0QqNzuQIF5atU

Thanks for your concern and sorry for late reply!

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Hello,

Wonderful post, with plenty of interesting information. Thank you very much !

For your DISM integration, are you using : "/ScratchDir" ?

Yes i did, here is the code (thanks to theKramer):



for more detail about the cmd code "clik here"
url: "http://pasted.co/665ea5f8"

Hey Winter, i've question.
Why you used imagex.exe (discontiued) than wimlib-imagex.exe 

Thanks in advance for your help and hard works 

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@home7ech

Greetings!

I am new to WinReducer (TY winterstorm2050 !), and have read most of your posts: tyvm for all the tips and testing you have done !

Like you I have a need to have WinUpdates to be totally functional, and have IE11 working like it should in a LITEST configuration. For me it is for use in a VirtualBox VM, then add Android emulators.

To be quite open, I am struggling with a lot of iso I have downloaded in the versions of 'tiny' and 'lite' and 'superlite' in recent weeks. I am looking at WinReducer, and thinking that your work is the most intensely explained.

Is your code at pasted [dot] co 665ea5f8  the only I have to worry about to make a suitable version of my own, for my specific need? using WREX7 1.0.10.0 (or ??)    I am wondering if you have made mods not yet posted?

 I havent made friends w DISM or WIM yet, so it will be a challenge   lol

In conclusion, (home7ech) you're saying that now WinRed7 is able to reduce an image with integrated updates?
Because before it was not so...

Hello guys,

I released an important update with v1.4.0.0, and another one with v1.4.5.0 which supports the EX-70 Updates Catalog (some updates are missing, especially all "Optional" ones, but I will add them for the June Tuesday Patch.

You are also able to integrate SP1.

Hi everyone,

sorry for late respons,
to be honest, i still unable to reduce "Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) Build.7601.18939.amd64fre.win7sp1_gdr.150722-0600" with integrated updates Sept2015,
but i'll try to test with EX-70 - v1.6.1.0 soon

pS:
i would shared soon as posible, if nothing goes wrong with my PC and so with the internet connection ???
fyi, i still have experiencing technical difficulties issues until now ???




Thanks

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 home7ech
 pS : Creative Learning by Doing, Slowly but Do iT Cool's

here's my tests result: "EX-70.v1.6.1.0 - open folder (mount) crashes" and get error mesagges:
Microsoft .NET Framework
...Unexpected end of file while parsing Name has occured. Line 647, position 79.


i also try to apply install.wim before EX-70 using Imagex.exe (v10.0.10011.16384) and get (WARN) messages below:



then run up EX-70.v1.6.1.0, but still get the same error "open folder (mount) crashes" ?

any ideas





Thanks

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 home7ech
 pS : [size=12]Creative Learning by Doing, Slowly but Do iT Cool's




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Hello,

This seems to be a language file error.

Please update your language file to the latest available (you will find it in the EX-100 zip package), until I update EX-70.

Hi,

sorry for late respons,

not from a language file error but from "ei.cfg" file attributes 'Read-only'

Solved : Clear or change "ei.cfg" file 'attributes'

CODE : ATTRiB -R -A -S -H "%WiN7PATH%"\sources\ei.cfg >NUL

https://forum.winreducer.net/t2549-solved-open-folder-mount-crashes




Thanks, hope this helps some

FYi for next topic : *) Soon as possible
- i'm already Compared EX-70 - v1.6.1.0_v1.8.8.0 to make a new (fresh) windows 7 x64 reduced installation
- Slipstream Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (KB976932) x64 Manually using DiSM
- Afterward, Implement Updates iE 11, Convenience Rollup and 2018-12 Monthly Rollup (KB4471318) Manually using DiSM

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 pS : Creative Learning by Doing, Slowly but Do iT Cool's

home7ech wrote:

Hi,

FYi for next topic : *) Soon as possible
- i'm already Compared EX-70 - v1.6.1.0_v1.8.8.0 to make a new (fresh) windows 7 x64 reduced installation

 
 .: [EX-70 - v1.6.1.0_v1.8.8.0] [6.1.7601.xxxxx] Comparing Results :.
 url: https://forum.winreducer.net/t2551-ex-70-v1-6-1-0_v1-8-8-0-6-1-7601-xxxxx-comparing-results

Thanks, hope this helps some

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 home7ech
 pS : Creative Learning by Doing, Slowly but Do iT Cool's

home7ech wrote:

Hi,

FYi for next topic : *) Soon as possible
- Slipstream Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (KB976932) x64 Manually using DiSM

 .: Slipstream Windows 7 SP1 Manually using DiSM :.
 url: https://forum.winreducer.net/t2553-slipstream-windows-7-sp1-manually-using-dism

Thanks, hope this helps some

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 home7ech
 pS : Creative Learning by Doing, Slowly but Do iT Cool's

home7ech wrote:

Hi,

FYi for next topic : *) Soon as possible
- Afterward, Implement Updates iE 11, Convenience Rollup and 2018-12 Monthly Rollup (KB4471318) Manually using DiSM

 .: Implement Updates iE 11, Convenience Rollup and 2018-12 Monthly Rollup (KB4471318) Manually using DiSM :.
 url: https://forum.winreducer.net/t2559-implement-updates-ie-11-convenience-rollup-and-2018-12-monthly-rollup-kb4471318-manually-using-dism#21347

Thanks, hope this helps some
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 home7ech
 pS : Creative Learning by Doing, Slowly but Do iT Cool's